General Discussion : 2015 Bosch KestrelCams discussion

Good morning everyone!  This topic has been created for you to discuss events you see on the Bosch KestrelCams. Please ask questions, post observations and share knowledge about what our kestrels do during this 2015 nesting season.

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cb0324's picture

One nestling and 2 fledglings still in the box

 

Jill from MN's picture

The little female fledglings and the little guy who hasn't left yet are in the box right now.  Nice how they haven't left this last little one all alone!  7:44 Boise time.

cb0324's picture

Did not give him much of their food though, LOL. Ate it almost all themselves, except some crumbs.

Jill from MN's picture

I thought of another hypothesis - knowing from my budgies that when feathers grow in, feather sheaths protect them until they disintegrate, could it be that the little guy still needs all his feathers ready to go?

cb0324's picture

The two female fledglings  are spending the night in the box together with the little male who did not fledge yet.

cb0324's picture

Interesting, that the two female and one male fledglings spend most of the time in the box, now the second day ( second for the females)

Have not seen this before, at least not to this extend 

cb0324's picture

the rodent feast is over . the three fledglings in the box tore it in pieces.

cb0324's picture

one of the fledglings left the box. Sitting on the roof watching the sunset, then moved on to the roof.

 

madeline's picture

two little female fledglings resting in box, probably for the nite

cb0324's picture

yeah, the male fledgling decided to stay outside, so the two sisters will stay alone in the box, neatly warming each other.

cb0324's picture

After spending the night in the box, both female fledglings left the box.

madeline's picture

exciting watching the seven doing fly-bys at the nest box!!!

cb0324's picture

Amazing.  Male fledgling in the box, at least 5 kestrels flying around, 3 landed on the top od the box, another one on the roof, another one flying by.

You can tell that the youngsters are not very skilled fliers yet, LOL.

cb0324's picture

Couple of fledglings on the top of the box, at one moment a fledgling was perching from outside and another one from the inside of the cavity.

It is amazing how the family works together.

I think that the time of fledging and the days after are the most exciting times!

 

 

Delorahilleary's picture

No kidding - it's great that the kestrel fledglings stick around after fledging - they have quite a bit of hunting and flying practice to work on! It makes for some fun watching for us smiley

cb0324's picture

Just a few suggestion for next year for the drop down menu.

The biggest issues are there in the week prior to fledging and at after the fledging. also missing option between one bird and all birds

Also, it is often , due to poor resolution, difficult to identify the sex of kestrels in question.

so

- providing options for multiple birds, e.g. 2 kestrels looking out of the cavity, two kestrels stretching and flapping wings etc.

- clarifying perching/looking out 

- perching inward/outward

- short touch down at the cavity ( to reassure or to ask to fledge)

- option for non id sex chick/fledgling/adult

- chirping

- landing on trees, roof , trellis

- fly by

- non kestrel specie- option for multiple, also option for a.magpie b.other

- providing for option how many chicks fed at time.

After certain stage, delete/disable from menu obsolete options

 

Might be a few more things, this is just what came to my mind.          smiley

Delorahilleary's picture

Thanks for the suggestions! We'll likely tweak it after this season and going into the next smiley

cb0324's picture

You can hear the  chick  communicating with other family members- even got food delivered twice.

cb0324's picture

Fledgling on the roof eating pray. Unfortunately, the inside cam is down.

 

cb0324's picture

Fledgling on the roof eating pray. Unfortunately, the inside cam is down.

 

cb0324's picture

Fledgling on the roof, another on the railing. Fly by s, landing in trees.

cb0324's picture

fledglings perch in the cavity from outside.

 

cb0324's picture

you can hear the fledglings even if you cannot see thnem- chirping loud and clear. 

cb0324's picture

Now we can see him/her 9 resolution does not allow ID) , sitting on the "trellis' and chirping.

cb0324's picture

kestrel landing at the opening, looking inside and leaving.

the family is now less around the box than before.

cb0324's picture

A lot of activity again this morning!   A male fledgling in the box. Others landing on the top of the box or on the roof. Playful interaction between two kestrels in flight. Fly by s.

cb0324's picture

Now both male and female fledgling in the boX !. A lot of chirping and excitement Others around.

Delorahilleary's picture

Awesome, cb! Sounds like fun to watch!

cb0324's picture

A couple of fledglings arrived, touch downs, a lot of chirping, one of them entering the box.

cb0324's picture

cb0324's picture

2 fledglings in the box and the third one looking inward through the cavity. A lot of activity on the roof.Food calls.Parent delivers some food to the little male.

Jill from MN's picture

How beautiful our little fledglings are!   They appear less little now.  How long until a fledgling is as large as his or her parents, and how much longer will it be until they are considered adult birds?

Delorahilleary's picture

A young kestrel chick reach their adult body size before fledging actually occurs - we band nestlings around age 20-25, which is when their legs do not grow any bigger. After their body is full-size, however, it is just a matter of how much their feathers grow in.

So, by the time they leave the nest, they are technically the same size as the adults - they just have shorter flight feathers. Their flight feathers will be fully grown in by late summer.

They are considered "fledglings" during the entire period of the parents continuing to care for them. Once they become independent and leave the care of the adult kestrels, they are then considered "juvenile" birds. They remain juveniles until they are about one year old, which is when they become old enough to breed.

Compared to other birds of prey, American Kestrels grow up very quick!

Jill from MN's picture

All five fledglings on the roof at 9:19 PM Boise time!

 

cb0324's picture

Gosh, two magpies! Lets' hope the fledglings stay safe.

The lag between the two cams is unacceptable.

sparrow's picture

what's with the camera's today (Sunday)?

 

Delorahilleary's picture

The cameras have been reset. Everything looking better now? :)

sparrow's picture

Yes and thank you very much! - I enjoy watching these little kestrels so much, and they grow up and leave the nest so fast, I just hold on to every second of being able to see them as they grow and get out in the wide, wild world out there.

sparrow's picture

Saw one on the ladder!!! Not sure if a parent or fledgling or male or female - but I saw one!!! Thanks for the re-set!

sparrow's picture

Bit of a storm rolling in? - and, no, I"m not just sitting here watching for the kestrels to make an appearance - cleaning up the house and the computer sits in the middle of my living room where I walk past it every couple of minutes,, but glad to see any appearance the kestrels make! Hope they are safe out of that wind!

cb0324's picture

This hard wind has to be challenging for the fledglings- but they are still out there.

cb0324's picture

Wow, five magpies!  Lucky us all the chicks fledged...

cb0324's picture

There is some kind of software issue with the outside cam. The picturesad is covered by the log in page of the system.

Delorahilleary's picture

I spotted a family group of kestrels kiting in the valley on my way up to The World Center for Birds of Prey. The fledglings are definitely becoming adept little fliers, and I bet they are getting good hunting practice in as well!

cb0324's picture

This year it seems to be a real success story.

BTW, one question: In the first year o9f the cam, the dad kestrel got killed a few weeks after fledging.( he was a great dad) So the male is definitely a new one. I wonder whether the female is still the same one as in the two years before.

Delorahilleary's picture

Hello!
We believe that this year is a new pair entirely. Last year the female was banded, and this year neither male or female were banded. This male could be the same one from last year, but he seemed to be behaving quite differently, which is why I suspect that both are new.

The female is definitely new - the one this year has no band, and we banded the female from last year.

cb0324's picture

Thanks. My impression was also that the  male behaved differently. Wonder what happened to the old pair. Kestrels are small and I could think that their casualty rates are higher even as experienced adults than let's say red tailed hawks. 

Delorahilleary's picture

For kestrels, nest territory shuffling isn't always related to mortality. Males migrate from wintering grounds first, and then they claim nest boxes and nesting territory. Once established, the males try to attract a female to their nest and territory. 

A male kestrel can (and often does) claim the same territory year after year for nesting. However, if a different male makes the claim first, or outcompetes the old male, territorial shuffling can occur. This means a different male and different female nests. The original male can often be found nesting nearby, however.

So, in areas with an active kestrel population, such as the Idaho Treasure Valley, a pair relocating does not necessarily mean they have perished :) Experienced adults have a high rate of making it from year to year, much like other birds of prey.

cb0324's picture

Thanks. Are there other kestrel boxes near by or is it the only one in the area and the other kestrels just nest wherever they can?

Delorahilleary's picture

There are some other nest boxes in the area, within a mile. They are not very close, however, as we want to maximize the chance of kestrels choosing to nest in the box with a camera mounted to it.

The other nest boxes are managed by Boise State University, and they are a part of their decades-long kestrel study. After fledging occurs, family groups from those nest boxes are spotted by staff here, often grouped with the kestrels that fledged from the KestrelCam box. One Peregrine Employee even counted 21 kestrels hanging out on the hill one morning!

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