AKP 2017 cams discussion

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TerriFla's picture

Lovely! Jill you said just what I was thinking. Thank you.

Delorahilleary's picture

It depends on weather oftentimes, but it seems nestlings begin to thermoregulate themselves around when their shoulder feathers begin growing in. Once they can keep themselves warm, the female stops roosting in the nest box - unless it's a particularly cold night.

Delorahilleary's picture

Thank you so much! I'm so glad that everyone enjoyed it, and it was great to have the live chats! Thanks for joining in :)
We'll be taking a close look at the wiring in a while, to figure out what happened to the mic. We'll keep you in the loop when we do!

I'm going to miss these nestlings, but there will be a next year! :)

Jill from MN's picture

Small, stilled and forlorn, 

A precious hope unrealized,

A tiny egg

Laid by a devoted bird,

Surrounded in its hopeless beauty

By four devoted snow-white siblings as they grew,

A pearl unsullied,

A vision sad;

A kestrel hope frozen.

TerriFla's picture

It's been there the whole time. And didn't get broken or hatched.  :(

TerriFla's picture

Look at the egg just sitting there right in the middle of the box.

How sad.

 

cb0324's picture

Where did the egg come from??

TerriFla's picture

So sad to see the box empty but also happy to have them all grown and fledged safely! Will be making a donation to help pay for a new microphone! Thanks for all you do Delora, I really enjoyed the chats this year!

NM-Kestrel-Laura's picture

At what nestling age does the female typically stop sleeping in the box with her nestlings? My 8- & 9-day chicks were left alone last night. I'm hoping she didn't leave because the ants we have in the box, which have been very active! 

Delorahilleary's picture

I'll be curious to see tomorrow night. Sometimes it takes nestlings a bit to get flight-capable enough to fly up to a second-story nest box again after leaving.

Delorahilleary's picture

Indeed, we had a record for snowfall this last winter, and a very wet spring follow-up. The Boise River has been above the flood stage for a long while, and it seems likely to stay that way until August. It's hard to say what that will do for kestrels, however. My own personal vague observation has been that the big insects are a bit late coming out this year, and I mostly observed rodent food being delivered right up until the few days before fledging.

It is normal for kestrels to fledge at about 27-31 days old, and this set was right on the money, fledging at day 29! They are well within the normal range. Number of nestlings does not appear to impact fledge timing.

cb0324's picture

It looks like nobody i8s coming back for the night this year.

cb0324's picture

Two things:

1. My impression is that the weather there was colder/wetter this year than normally. the desert looks greener.. If so,k how would it affect the food suply for the kestrels?

2. I do not rmember when they fledged in previous years, but is it possible that having only 4 chicks made them grow faster/stronger? 

cb0324's picture

Missed tthem this time. The very first year i watched the cam I was lucky to see all 5 fledging. But they never fledged as a group, all of them, lol.

 

TerriFla's picture

Next year send me your phone number and I will call and wake you up, since I usually see them first!

LOL

Delorahilleary's picture

Thanks for watching everyone! We'll see if these nestlings come back to roost and rest. Otherwise, into the big exciting world they go! I'll leave the cams up for if and when they come back.

From here on out, the nestlings will be cared for and fed by the adults until they can survive on their own. They become a little roaming pack, essentially, with the parents keeping an eye out while they hunt. By the time fall comes around, these four nestlings should be out on their own.

Thanks everyone for the kind words :)

Delorahilleary's picture

Thanks for posting all the times!

Delorahilleary's picture

They will be mostly gone, but they often return to the nest box at night especially, to use as a safe roost. From here on out, the kestrels will be learning how to hunt and fly, and the parents will continue to feed and take care of them until they get proficient at surviving on their own.

Delorahilleary's picture

Oh man, of course they go at 6:30am on a Saturday! I was not awake, haha. Nice catch!
I grabbed archive video, I hope that uploads correctly. 

Delorahilleary's picture

It is probably true that the 3 eggs are unviable. It is not uncommon for birds to simply lay eggs that do not hatch - perhaps they were not fertilized, perhaps something occurred with the embryo, it is hard to say! It is good that one hatched at least!

The other eggs will likely be mostly ignored until they break or are eaten by something. Birds of prey do not have a strong sense of smell, so that will likely be unnoticed. Often, unhatched eggs just present as some broken shells at the end of the season, after the nestlings are active and jumping all over from stregnthening flight muscles.

Jill from MN's picture

One charming little hatchling.  Thank you, we will keep tabs on Baby.   So sad about the other eggs...

 

TerriFla's picture

No they will return.

Nu-Sun Cinema's picture

Everybody gone ! Need a Kestrel hatchling fix ??

Link to    http://www.nu-sun.com/html/2017_report.html

Thanks, Nu-Sun Cinema

D Brekke's picture

Will they use their box as a home base & come back to it or are they gone gone?

Jill from MN's picture

And it's an empty nest, folks!  Congratulations to the 2017 Kestrel Kids and their parents!  That was so quick and so stealthy for most of us that there may be a new expression coined to describe surprises like this - 'gone like a kestrel chick on a Saturday morning'.

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